ALT.SF4M to change without notice • r****o@a****.******a.net 10/05/1996 00:00:000 UTC Hello all It is good to see the activity in the 4m newsgroup, after such a long spate of inactivty. I amtrapped at work (wuite literally- car died, waiting for the day crew to rescue me 5 hour wait!!) and thought maybe there would be some activity here. and LO! more than i would have ever hoped for.... the old traditions are still alive, and i am damn glad to see it so! Arguing over why the forum of today isnt as good as the one of yesterday! Hell thats the SAME arguement i heard when i came in 14 years ago! How the forum of Pope and Botwin was more exciting and did more *stuff* and how we were all slug abouts. Well, I must admit i *did* contribute to the slugabout ness, having contributed the first matching couch/love seat/chair set to the forum, but hey- large bodies need large places to slug about. So here we are again- nyah nyah nyah Every forum is supposed to be better than the one before, and to have been filled with readers who *\did* things. its as much forum tradition as wearing glasses! The good times folks had yesterday, compacted by ,memory (and all the DULL bits removed) alwasy seem great. I remmeber Jesse once told me when he first came down to 4m, how he had missed all the good stuff, and how nothing good would happen when he was around..... 4 years later, he was one of the OLD ONES, and LO! he was telling a tale of a chinatown trip, and i heard one of the NEW NEWBIES, say "I missed allthe good stuff, nothign good will happen now that im around!" the legacy continued, and i was part of it (like i should be now!). we oldbies miss the place, and thats the jist of it. we wish we could be there more often, but jobs and geography have cons[pired to keep us away. The things we loved MOST about the place are the very things we cant touch now, the books, the discussions, the comradierie, the activities. Since they are so so so precious to us in our minds eyes, we all want to make sure there's no shortage of these things now... and of course there isnt. what we forget is that the activities we had then were invisible to oldies watching US at the momemnt! there folks saying "the forum is going downhill no one does anythign anymore" when the oldies who are saying it now were new! So yes- do stuff! Dont just slug about and play games and watch tv- but hell folks none of you needed to be told that! i am sure things are going on, invisible to us "oldbies" just the same as it was when we were there. there will always be the tv'ers, and the non readers who just like the company. Fine, they too have much to offer in differnet ways. As long as the library is prfeserved (those meddlesome books!) the huge stack of crumbling paper and glue and colored covers, there will be a lure to bnring in new like minded folks- and a cohesive force to hold us all togehter. If we lose the books we loose all... but remember 10 years ago--- we lost ALL the books, and we lost all... and phoenix like we arose again. (or was it Fee-Onyx, right rich?) the last sage words of this oldbie- be friends- the ppl you meet in 4m are like no other anywhere in the world. I didnt attend SB at any time, and I met many folks in Texas, and in Podiatry school and in my electontrics career and beyond... and collectively they dont amount to ONE Jam, or one Brian,or one Doc, Matt, Jesse, Kevin, Lincoln, Gary, Joe Leo, Geo K, and on and on and on.... Meet the analogues of those people NOW. they are there with you. DO the things that make the memories, so you too can one day diit far away and BITCH anbout the then current forum, and how no one reads, and how the logbooks in the good old days were on actual PAPER! but always, and i mean always remmeber the one thing about the 4m that made it anything at all. With all the crabb-assing and dissension, when its time for a forum count off..... its ONE! • s******j@**.com 10/05/1996 00:00:000 UTC You know what needs to happen? We need Robbo, once he get reinCARnated, to drop by the Forum on meeting night and grab the officers and take them to Wohops. Then to the weird diner uptown. Then perform the passing on of the pens. Then do the same a week later to another set of Newbies. Then they will be One of Us. Robbo, I'll send you that motherboard WITH MEMORY if you do this . . . my contribution to keeping things running. Stefan -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ***@***.com ~ s*****s@a*****.***u.edu ~ s******j@**.com http://www.ini.cmu.edu/~sjones/ • p*******x@p***.****i.com 12/05/1996 00:00:000 UTC Dr. Rob. (r****o@a****.******a.net) somehow managed to write: : seat/chair set to the forum, but hey- large bodies need large places to : slug about. So here we are again- nyah nyah nyah well, then, my forum memory...the Death of the Comfy Chair. Back in the New Old Forum (when we moved from the Room Across The Hall to the Room That Was Burnt To A Crisp), we had a reclining lounge chair, known to all and sundry as the Comfy Chair. In this chair, I sat myself, all 150 scrawny pounds of me. The following people, all LARGE (as in most likely double my weeight each, decided they too wished to sit in the chair: Bap, Jack, Jam (he was far larger then), and Ralph Down went the sides of the chair, and tghe bottom, and me... -- 73 de Dave Weingart KB2CWF "Can you find the Valium? mailto:p*******x@****.com Can you bring it soon? mailto:p*******x@e******.*********n.edu Lost Johnny's out there http://www.liii.com/~phydeaux Baying at the Moon" -- Hawkwind