ALT.SF4M New Systems of Government? • j********o@***.com 19/10/1996 00:00:000 UTC Something that's interested me for some time is the question of new forms of government/social organization for futuristic societies (not necessarily dystopias). I tend to assume that all of the good ideas have been had already, and most of the bad ones. This raises several positions. 1) That I'm not a visionary or prophet, and speculation has its limits. 2) That any future systems will be variations on known ones. 3) That even relatively recent ones, like Communism, Fascism (sufficiently distinct variations to justify different terms in this case), are merely variations on previous systems, like tribal communes, inter-tribal predation, monster gods... A thought that occurs to me is that perhaps a social system is notable for its nuances, rather than its theme? (hence the distinction just made) Or the historical facts of its existence? Or it's mistakes, or relative lack thereof? I've thought up a few things, but they aren't really innovative: perhaps the great bad ideas of Marx and his imitators merely seem notable by the fact of their execution or their stupidity. Now that's a clue! A system that seems good enough to try, but is a nightmare in reality? I'm not really interested in responses to changing technology, as that's a gimmick, but in genuine innovations in social organization, that might have been discovered but haven't been. After all, people in the Future don't know it's the future and that all the interesting ideas have been had already. Of course, for this purpose, I assume an unchanging and human nature: genetically engineered humanoids or space aliens might have sufficiently different psyches that their politics might need to be different (in extremum, the Kafers of Traveller 2300, the Kzinti, or New Trek Klingons (yuck!)). Maybe Communism or Fascism would work for them (I don't relish the idea by any means, but it might be conceivable... as a matter of fact, if Hitler hadn't been such a moron, Fascism/Syndicalism would haver lasted much longer, if not indefinitely). Yet another reason why we should keep our lasers handy and hope them slags think exactly like us. ("Xaxtor, my analysis of the natives indicates that they kill and eat animals and rip their own young from their wombs!" "Monsters! Weapons-master, energize all war tools!" - "Captain Kelly! Interception of the alien transmission indicates that they oppress their women and sexual minorities, and mutilate the genitals of their children!" "Ifni! Ready a volley of trade sanctions!") Gorno