Best TREK yet! • s******r@s**.***.*****n.edu 25/11/1996 00:00:000 UTC Ghod strike me dead for saying it, but the new Trek film (First Contact) was *wonderful*. It has restored my faith in Trek. The Borg are the best thing in the Trek universe since the original series. I've had some reservations about the way the Borg were handled on TV, though. Not anymore! The Borg are still implacable, unremittingly evil, and very hard to kill, but they are no longer just a set of puppets with laser sights. You see the hive mind, or at least an avatar of it. They finally put the "org" in Borg. The special effects are great. The plot moves along. They didn't ruin it, for once! For the first time, I don't think I'd change a thing. See it! -- K. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin L. Sterner | U. Penn. High Energy Physics | Smash the welfare state! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- • s******j@**.com 05/12/1996 00:00:000 UTC In article <1*************.********7@l*******.****.***l.com>, wrote: >Kevin, >I must totally agree with you, Next contact was Fuckin Awesome. I think >it was the best Star Trek movie to date. The special effects were >incredible, and the story was well written. >What did you htink of the new enterprise? And the borg queen. What I'm >wondering now is this: Is she THE Borg Queen, or A Borg Queen? I think it's more like "a" Borg queen. Remember that there was one of her on the cube that got toasted in the series. >I mean if she is THE Queen, then there should be no more borgs, right, >because they have a hive mind. What do you think. The Borg are too neat too get rid of that easily. I suspect that the "Queen" (They never her actually call her that) is a sort of avatar, a corporealized symbol of the collective. It can manifest itself when and where needed. Maybe there can even be more than one instance of her running at the same time. But is she multithreaded? -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ***@***.com ~ s*****s@a*****.***u.edu ~ s******j@**.com http://www.ini.cmu.edu/~sjones/ CHARGES APPLIED FOR UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL! • l******n@a****.******a.net 26/11/1996 00:00:000 UTC Kevin Sterner wrote: >Ghod strike me dead for saying it, but the new Trek film (First Contact) >was *wonderful*. It has restored my faith in Trek. >... >See it! Spoiler warning I too liked this movie but I did have a problem with the way the Borg where handled. The problem that I had is the personification of the Borg with the one female character. Here you have an alien race the was little understood. To make the race better understood by the public the writers for this movie added this hive leader. This seams to me like a cop-out. On the other hand this is one of the better Trek movies. You should go see it on a BIG screen in a theater that has DIGITAL surround sound. In other words, do not see it in a dingy multiplex theater with sticky floors. -- Lincoln W. Kliman (l******n@n*****a.net, L***************n@f*******g.com) SF, EMS, CONS, food food food. WWW http://www.netusa.net/~lincoln/ GE/O/o,d++(-),!H/H-,s:+,g+,p?,au+,a,w++,v,c+++$,UL,N++,K++,W(+++),M+, V,-po+,Y+,t,5++,R-,G',tv-,b+(+++),D(--),B---,e++,u+**,h+,f+,r--,n-- • p*******x@p***.****i.com 28/11/1996 00:00:000 UTC Still not as good (IMHO) as Wrath o' Montalkhan, but a close second. Spoilers to follow No, really, I mean it... I'm not quite sure how Picard was able to hear the Borg still. I'm not quite sure WHY there was a central control Borg in an otherwise perfectly good distributed system, one that made them all fall down go boom when she went bye-bye (and I had to stifle the urge to shriek "I'm melting...melting...") Given that several of the Borg are out on the deflector array, what are they doing to keep their organic parts alive? But these are minor nitpicks :) -- 73 de Dave Weingart KB2CWF "Can you find the Valium? mailto:p*******x@****.com Can you bring it soon? mailto:p*******x@e******.*********n.edu Lost Johnny's out there http://www.liii.com/~phydeaux Baying at the Moon" -- Hawkwind BY SENDING UNSOLICTED, COMMERCIAL SPAM EMAIL TO THIS ADDRESS, YOU HEREBY AGREE TO RECEIVE UP TO 20 MEGABYTES OF RANDOM CORE DUMP INFORMATION. • George Skadl 26/11/1996 00:00:000 UTC YES! I totally agree, First Contact is probably the best trek movie since Wrath Of Khan. I saw it twice last weekend. I thought the special effects were wonderful. There was a very nice balance between drama and humor. Lili was a little to guinnen like for my taste, hey wait maybe she was guinnen in disguise. I liked the way the two subplots were intergrated together, very nicely done! I was pleased with the way they got Worf onto the enterprise, I was afraid they were gonna do something cheesey, like have Piccard send for him. I especially liked the head Borg-ette, she gave me the heebeegeebees, what a truely wonderful three dimensional villain. "Little ship?" "You told him about the statue?" "Oh, I never read it." "Perhaps today IS a good day to die." "Assimilate this." "Resistance is Futile." "So you guys are like astrinaughts on some kind of Star Trek?" "I'm a doctor, not a door stop." oh yeah, this movie also had some great one liners. Waiting for "Mars Attacks" which I must say looks as if it will be loads of fun... Colleen Skadl • ***@***.com 30/11/1996 00:00:000 UTC It was a good one. I do think the "borg queen" notion was silly . . . it seemed to be an excuse to have a villain that can be hated as a individual. Also, I kept waiting for Zephram Cochran to pull a piglet out of his bag and sing to it. --Stefan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- s*****s@a*****.***u.edu ~ s******j@**.com ~ ***@***.com http://www.ini.cmu.edu/~sjones/