ALT.SF4M Surprising Local Cluster Fact • j********o@***.com 28/11/2000 00:00:000 UTC The Andromeda galaxy is only 2.5 Million light years distant, yet a typical spiral galaxy is 100,000 l.y. in diameter. I had once noted and been surprised by this ratio of only 25:1, but hadn't quite put together to obvious visual implication (which was spelled out in my trusty astro text): 25:1 means that the apparent size of our neighbor is akin to that of a quarter held (almost edge-wise) at arm's length. That's huge! The area of five full Moons: the little smudge visible in the constellation Andromeda is just the tiny bright core of the central bulge, while the real extent of the spiral must be the size of a small constellation. This was all inspired by the TV show of the same name - I had forgotten that Andromeda was bigger than us: let's cut those bullies down to size! Gorno • j********o@***.com 01/12/2000 05:24:20 UTC Courtesy of Doc: << Maffei I is also PGC10217 and UGCA39. It is in Cassiopeia not far from the double cluster. >> It probably doesn't have a coloful name because it's obscured behind the Milky Way and can't have been seen until recently (hence, the latter-day catalog registries). Interestingly, since Andromeda sits in the sky not far from the band of the Milky Way, their view of us must be similar to our view of them, while the viewer in Maffei I sees us edge-on. Maffei I is on the other side of Andromeda, and about 50% closer to it than we are. @ @ @ Maffei I Andromeda Milky Way Gorno